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2IMPULSIV
30-05-2008, 11:24 AM
Camshaft Q&A

Understanding how a camshaft works —and all of the terms associated with camshaft operation —can be daunting, even to people who have built a few engines in their day. To help you get a solid foundation in camshaft-ese, we put together a short Q&A listing of camshaft terms and what they mean. Understanding the basics of camshaft operation will help you choose the right cam for your engine and intended use.
If you want more in-depth information about camshafts and how to choose the right one, read the Thump Sticks (http://www.summitracing.com/streetandstrip/tech_content.asp?ID={52BA43BC-728D-42CD-AC4F-3E6818136F02}) story in the Street & Strip Tech section.


Q: What is lift?

A: Lift refers to how far an intake or exhaust valve is lifted off its seat at the cam lobe's highest point. Total valve lift is controlled by camshaft lobe lift and rocker arm ratio. The rocker arm ratio multiplies the cam's lobe lift. For example, if the camshaft's lobe lift is 0.400 inch, adding a 1.5 ratio rocker arm increases total valve lift to 0.600 inch.


Q: What does lift do?

A: The intake and exhaust valves open to let air and fuel into the cylinders and allow the exhaust gasses to escape. In general, opening the valves quicker and further will improve the engine’s ability take in the air/fuel mixture and increases output. Increasing valve lift can yield more power without much change to an engine’s overall power curve. However, an increase in valve lift is almost always accompanied by an increase in duration (the amount of time the valve is open).


Q: What is duration?

A: Duration is the amount of time a valve remains open. It is measured by the angle, in degrees of crankshaft rotation, that the valve stays off its seat during the lift cycle of the cam lobe. Because airflow past the valve is negligible until the valve is approximately 0.050 inch off the seat, the most accurate way to measure duration is from the point where the valve is 0.050 inch open (off the seat) until it is 0.050 inch away from closing.


Q: How does duration affect an engine?

A: By keeping the valves open longer, a cam with more duration can increase high-rpm power. Increasing the duration also increases the rpm range where the engine produces power. Increasing duration without a change in lobe separation angle will result in increased valve overlap.


Q: What is lobe separation?

A: Lobe separation is the angle in camshaft degrees between the maximum lift points of the intake and exhaust valves. It is affected by the placement of the intake and exhaust lobes on the camshaft.


Q: What does lobe separation do?

A: Lobe separation affects valve overlap, which in turn affects an engine’s power curve, idle quality, idle vacuum, and rpm range. Duration, lobe separation, and valve overlap all affect each other. For example, if you want to increase valve overlap without changing duration, you can decrease the lobe separation angle. Increasing lobe separation angle without changing valve overlap requires increasing the duration.


Q: What is valve overlap?

A: Valve overlap is the angle, in degrees of crankshaft rotation, that the intake and exhaust valves are both open. This occurs at the end of the exhaust stroke and the beginning of the intake stroke. Increasing lift, duration, and/or decreasing lobe separation increases valve overlap.


Q: What does valve overlap do?

A: At high engine speeds, valve overlap allows the gasses exiting the cylinder through the exhaust valve to help pull a fresh air/fuel mixture into the cylinder through the intake valve. Increasing valve overlap helps high-rpm power, but reduces low-rpm power and idle quality.


Q: What is intake centerline?

A: The intake centerline is the point of highest lift on a camshaft’s intake lobe. It is expressed in crankshaft degrees After Top Dead Center (ATDC). In an assembled engine, the camshaft’s intake centerline is measured by the number of crank degrees between TDC and the point of maximum valve lift.


Q: Do I need to degree my camshaft?

A: Degreeing is the process of timing the valves’ opening and closing events with crankshaft rotation to achieve optimal performance. The intake valve closing event is the most important because it controls the amount of air and fuel allowed in the cylinder. Advancing the cam (by crankshaft degrees) closes the intake valve sooner, which helps low-rpm torque at the expense of high-rpm horsepower. Retarding the cam does the opposite—more high-rpm horsepower at the expense of low-rpm torque.

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Hope that helps the two people that I know are interested in this subject at the moment...

:)

JaMeS
30-05-2008, 02:18 PM
nope it dont help:P

2IMPULSIV
30-05-2008, 04:25 PM
I've been looking into your L98 James. Seem there is a few questions to what size cam will fit without other work... Might have to go a smaller one...



:P

MitchyVYSS
31-05-2008, 07:20 PM
Ya don't want to go too big hey. I made that mistake. I definately got a lumpy monster cam, and a pretty good power figure, but the engine doesn;t 'pull' as hard as it could from off the bottom. If I had my time again, I'd probably choose a smaller duration and higher lift. Food for thought.

2IMPULSIV
31-05-2008, 09:23 PM
I hear what you saying as the cam I had in the SS was HUGE!.
However, as for power down low you can still have it if the tune is done well. I've been in some other BIG camed car's that would make as mess in anyone's pants down low. I know I shat my self and made me realise that there is a lot more from a good tune.. Plus since you have had your in for a while now it would be good to have your tune looked at to make sure it's getting all it can from the work done..

:)

chris
31-05-2008, 10:34 PM
leave the cam and go blown, mate spent under 10 on his ss, unopened its got 380 rwkw or 510 rwhp, cannot get less than 600 out of a tank and regularly gets 7-750 or 9.5l/100km, standing start 3rd gear burnouts and once tyres hot will bounce off the limiter in 4th, his initial setup was the blower kit from capa $4995, full exhaust $1200, and tune-free favour from a mate. made 310 rwkw 415rwhp. now it just has a cooler and upped the boost from 6-9 psi. it has instant low down balls that gets stronger til it gets full boost at about 3000rpm then it just howls along and lights tyres in 3 gears and with some clutch will turn the tyres at 160kmh,

JaMeS
01-06-2008, 12:26 PM
I've been looking into your L98 James. Seem there is a few questions to what size cam will fit without other work... Might have to go a smaller one...



:P


hrmm well thats just crap

chris
01-06-2008, 01:06 PM
hrmm well thats just crap
or just spend some $$$$$ and make it fit, sounds easy when its your money

MitchyVYSS
01-06-2008, 01:15 PM
You definately want to take into consideration what other work you're gonna do down the track eg blowers, turbos, etc and pick a camshaft to suit the application.

JaMeS
01-06-2008, 02:01 PM
i dont think i will want blower or anything like that.. just heads and cam mainly

BTLFEDR33
01-06-2008, 06:21 PM
yeah its also more fun doing small bits and seeing what difference each item does and performs unlike what i didnt and go all out where i will be wanting more soon i can just see it:P

MitchyVYSS
02-06-2008, 04:28 PM
Yeah, but the trouble is you get most of the cheaper mods out of the way first up, and then they get more and more expensive as you want more power.

JaMeS
02-06-2008, 05:44 PM
i think i will do all my mods at the 1 time so u only realy have to have 1 tune

BTLFEDR33
02-06-2008, 07:15 PM
yes and make sure ya get the right person to do it think ya know were im coming from

VLT087
08-06-2010, 07:27 PM
so ive got a rb30 3lt turbo engine and in the near future im looking at upgrading all my fuel system and then engine.... btu ive been told cams and turbos r not a good mix?? and ive also been told they r but u DEFINITLY need the right cam or ul get huge turbo lag........ can any 1 help out with and answer??

chris
08-06-2010, 10:19 PM
Rajab racing, Nizproor some of the other eastern stater shops, they can make a street driven and registered untubbed vl do easy 9 and 10s, mini tubbed 8s!!!! they should know what the go is